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A...GENERAL NINFORMATION
1...What is nine inch nails?
2...What does nine inch nails mean?
3a..What is the significance of the Halo numbers?
3b..What nine inch nails albums are out there? (DISCOGRAPHY)
4...Is nine inch nails really only one person?
5...Trent Reznor's Stats
6...Danny Lohner's Stats
7...Charlie Clouser's Stats
8...What equipment does nine inch nails use?
9...What is Trent whispering?
10..What is nin's connection to (Many different bands)?
11..If I like NIN, what other bands might I like?
12..Who has covered NIN?
13..What is 'nothing'?
14..What is 'Le Pig'?
15..Was Trent in a movie?
16..What NIN songs have appeared in movies?
17..What's the story with 'Natural Born Killers'?
18..What bands was Trent in before NIN?
19..What about the live album and movie from the spiral tour?
20..Any information about the next album?
21..What is this about a funeral home?
22..Little tidbits about NIN.
23..How did the band get all muddy at Woodstock?
24..I saw a Reznor heater somewhere...Is there a connection with Trent?
25..Did NIN do the sound effects and soundtrack for the game Quake?
26..When and where has NIN toured?
27..What's up with "Lost Highway" and "The Perfect Drug"?
28..What is Tapeworm?
29..Is Trent going to be working with Dr. Dre and Ice Cube?
B...Pretty Hate Machine / Down In It / Head Like a Hole / Sin
1...What's with the extra lyrics that are printed, but not sung?
2...What is _PHM_'s album cover a picture of?
3...What's the difference between Euro and American _HLAH_ and _Sin_?
4...What is that last track on the _HLAH_ single?
5...Where are the samples at the beginning of "get down make love" from?
C...Broken / Fixed
1...What's the differences between all the _Broken_s?
2.. What does 'warning: not for use with mono devices'in the liner notes
mean?
3...Are there any singles off of _Broken_?
4...What does "no thanks: you know who you fucking are" mean in the credits?
5...What does "barks and roars: maise" mean in the credits of _Broken_?
6...Is _Fixed_ a limited edition? Why?
7...What is the difference between the import and domestic _Fixed_?
8...Who does the remixes on _Fixed_?
9...What is that 'I could feel that way too' from?
D...The Downward Spiral / March of the Pigs / Closer
1...Why did it take so long?
2...What singles are there off of _TDS_?
3...What is Trent whispering in "Mr Self Destruct"?
E...Further Down the Spiral
1...What is _Further Down The Spiral_?
2...Where are those hidden 'erase me's?
3...What are the differences between Halo 10 and Halo 10v2?
4...When was it released, and on what formats?
5...What is that 'Falls wanking to the floor' from?
F..."The Perfect Drug" and "The Perfect Drug" Versions
1...What is "The Perfect Drug"?
2...Why did I hear the song before it was officially released?
3...Are 'The Perfect Drug' and 'The Beauty of the Drug' the same song?
4...What is "The Perfect Drug" Versions?
5...Who remixed the tracks?
6...Is the vinyl promo for Halo Eleven different than the commercial one?
G...MISCELLANEOUS ALBUM NINFORMATION
1...Was there a Halo 00?
2...What is this plain-looking CD that claims to be Halo 10?
3...Why is it getting so hard to find the domestic _Closer_?
4...What are the Fisted Box Set and the FTDS Box Set?
H...NINE INCH NAILS VIDEOS
1...Ninformation about each officially released video
2...The Broken Movie, Oh My God!
3...How much of "Happiness in Slavery" is real?
4...What was the original video for "March of the Pigs" like?
5...Where was the video for "Hurt" recorded?
6...Why wasn't there ever a video for "Piggy"?
7...Wasn't there a video for "Sin"?
I...THE IMPORTS (bootlegs)
1...What is an import (bootleg)?
2...What imports are worth buying?
3...Which imports should i stay away from?
4...Where can i go for more information about bootlegs?
J...THE NINTERNET
1..What is the 'ninternet'?
2..Are the members of the band online?
3..Is 'Reznor's Edge' really Trent's homepage?
4..Where can I find out more information about alt.music.nin?
5..What is Nincon?
Z...THE FAQ'S FAQ
1...Who wrote the FAQ?
2...What's all this 'official source of unofficial information' stuff?
3...Where can I get the newest version of the FAQ?
4...What's new with the FAQ?
5...The FAQ in other languages
6...Author's section.
7...Who helped out?
8...Legal Stuff (Including *Distribution Information*)
KEY= * = New since last release > = Updated since last release
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PLEASE READ SECTIONS Z:6, Z:7, and Z:8
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A:1 "What is nine inch nails?"
Nine Inch Nails, often abbreviated as NIN, is the mind-child of Trent Reznor,
an extremely talented musician who has helped to shape the sound of modern
music. Since his 1989 debut _Pretty Hate Machine_, NIN has been recognized as
one of the leaders of the electronic music movement, spawning many bands that
have tried to duplicate their sound, but have never really matched it. Known
for his innovation and unique style, Trent Reznor has received such accolade
as one of the "25 Most Influential People in America" from Time Magazine and
the "Most Vital Artist in Music Today" from Spin Magazine.
Most nine inch nails music until now has been described as "industrial",
"rock", "electronic", "synthpop", "metal" or any combination of those terms.
It is probably just safer to say that NIN has had a very unique sound that
uses different elements from all sorts of different genres of music. But
perhaps one of the most interesting qualities of nine inch nails is that with
every release, the music is re-invented. There are similarities amongst all
of his work, but they are definitely not just continuations of the albums or
projects that came before.
A:2 "What does nine inch nails mean?"
In the words of Trent:
"I don't know if you've ever tried to think of band names, but usually
you think you have a great one and you look at it the next day and it's
stupid. I had about 200 of those. nine inch nails lasted the two-week
test, looked great in print, and could be abbreviated easily. It really
doesn't have any literal meaning. It seemed kind of frightening. [In his
best he-man voice] Tough and manly! It's a curse trying to come up with
band names."
A:3a "What is the significance of the Halo numbers?"
The Halo numbers appear on every official NIN release, except for a few
promos. They serve as a cataloguing system to keep the CDs in order.
A:3b "What Nine Inch Nails albums are out there? (DISCOGRAPHY)"
Here is a short halo list. Each album is also described in detail in their
individual sections.
For the best, most complete NIN discography, e-mail Alex Fletcher
at fletcher@democracy.queensu.ca, or visit the HTML version at
http://democracy.queensu.ca/~fletcher/Nin/
??.??.89 Halo 1 : Down In It (single) *
11.29.89 Halo 2 : Pretty Hate Machine
01.01.90 Halo 3 : Head Like a Hole (single) $
11.27.90 Halo 4 : Sin (single) #
09.16.92 Halo 5 : Broken (EP) !
??.??.92 Halo 6 : Fixed (EP)
03.01.94 Halo 7 : March of the Pigs (single) &%
03.08.94 Halo 8 : The Downward Spiral @
05.30.94 Halo 9 : Closer to God (single) &^
05.30.95 Halo 10v1 : Further Down the Spiral [American Version]
05.30.95 Halo 10v2 : Further Down the Spiral [UK Version]
05.13.97 Halo 11 : "The Perfect Drug" Versions
* The remixes on this were re-released on halo 3
# Contains cover of Queen's "Get Down Make Love"
! Available as the following:
1) Regular 5" w/ bonus tracks on 3" minidisk
2) Regular 5" w/ bonus tracks as tracks 6 & 7
3) Regular 5" w/ bonus tracks as tracks 98 & 99
4) Cassette w/ bonus tracks at end of side 2
5) 12" vinyl w/ bonus tracks on white label 7"
6) 12" vinyl w/ bonus tracks on b side
& Available as 2-disc sets in UK
^ Contains cover of Soft Cell's "Memorabilia"
$ A Halo-less version of HLaH (3 tracks) is available in UK
% Also available on limited edition 9" vinyl
@ Japanese release contained 'Dead Souls' as track 15
In addition to these are the promos for "Piggy" and "Hurt". Although these
aren't official releases, they do have 'halo ten' on them. See section G:2.
A:4 "Is nine inch nails really only one person?"
Every nine inch nails album to date has been the work of Trent Reznor and
his assistants. Trent incorporates the help of other artists (see album
credits for listing) but has always had total control over his albums.
Live NIN is an entirely different matter. For the first Lollapalooza
tour, Trent supported himself with a very real band, including the late
Jeff Ward from Lard on drums, Chris Vrenna on drums, Richard Patrick on
guitar, and James Woolley on keyboard. Woolley also toured with the live
band during the Self Destruct and Further Down the Spiral tours. The live
NIN lineup changes a lot. At one point it included Martin Atkins; at
another point, in the early days of the band in Cleveland, apparently it
was just Trent, Richard Patrick, and Chris Vrenna. Also, a fellow by the
name of Lee Mars played live keyboards for a while.
As of the fall of 1997, the NIN lineup appears to be Trent Reznor, Charlie
Clouser, and Danny Lohner, with the possibility of a few other new people
that have been working on programming. Robin Fink left the band a while
back, and Chris Vrenna has gone on his own to work on other projects.
A:5 "Trent Reznor's Stats"
MUCH MORE than you've ever needed to know about Trent Reznor
Statistics
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Full Name : Michael Trent Reznor
Birthdate : May 17, 1965, at 7:30 a.m. EDST
Address : Louisiana U.S.A.
Height : About 5'6" or 5'7"
Eye Color : Hazel
Hair Color : Dark brown, dyed jet black every six weeks
Status : Single
Pets : Female Golden Labrador Retriever 'Emmy Lou'
Female Weimariner 'Daisy'
Hometown : Mercer, Pennsylvania U.S.A.
Religion : Brought up Protestant
Fav. Color : Green
Fav. Candy : Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, Creamy
Tattoos : None
Education : 1 year at Allegheny College
Majors : Computer Engineering & Music
Piercing : Ears and for about a year he had his septum pierced
but it 'was a nightmare when I had a cold'
Family
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Parents : Nancy Clark (Homemaker)
Mike Reznor (Interior Designer/Amateur Bluegrass Musician)
Sister : Tera (Born: @1971, Mother of 2)
Grandfather: Bill Clark (Semi-Retired Furniture Salesman)
Quick over-detailed overview of childhood:
When Trent's parents divorced in the early 1970s, Trent stayed with
his maternal Grandparents (who raised him) and Tera stayed with her mother.
As a child, Trent was in the Boy Scouts, skateboarded, built model planes,
and played the piano (according to his grandfather). Trent's piano teacher
(Rita Beglin) compared Trent's piano playing to Harry Connick Jr. In high
school Trent was clean cut, handsome and popular. He played the tenor sax
and keyboards in his high school jazz and marching bands. He was also voted
best in drama by classmates and performed in local rock bands.
No, he was not abused as a child, and has never claimed to be (even
though it seems to be the fashionable thing to do among people these days).
A:6 "Danny Lohner's Stats"
Name : Danny Lohner
Age : 26
Hometown : Corpus Christi, Texas
High School : Wheeler High
College : University of Texas, Austin Withdrew in Fall 1993
Past Bands : Skrew
Instruments : Bass, guitar, and keyboard
A:7 "Charlie Clouser's Stats"
Name : Charlie Clouser
Age : 34
Hometown : Middletown, Pennsylvania
College : Hampshire College
Instruments : Keyboard, Drums
Has worked w/: White Zombie, Prong, Marilyn Manson, others.
A:8 "What equipment does nine inch nails use?"
*Note* This list is from a while back. It is very possible that the
guys have acquired some new gear. I'll try my best to get an
updated list ASAP.
According to Sean Beavan (NIN engineer extraordinaire): (and I quote)
"Here's a brief studio equipment list:
tracking console- amek mozart 56 input automated desk
(with rupert neve modules)
We mix mostly on ssl series g consoles (72 input and up)
and remix on neve vr desks.
Tape machines- 2 studer a 800 mk3's, (3 da88's for live shows)
outboard gear;
neve and ssl stereo compressors
neve mic pre's
pultek eqs
focusrite eqs
summit eqs
la 2a compressors
urie 11 76 compressors
urie la 3a compressors
eventide h3500
eventide h3000
lexicon 300
zoom 9030, and 9050's
assorted delays
1mac quadra 950, 1 mac 2ci
barracuda and pro tools harddrives.
we have three optical drives which store our akai samples
2 akai 1100s
2 akai exs
2 kurzweil k2000s
1 emu e4 (courtesy of emu it's great btw.)
3 minimoogs
2 prophet vs
1 oberhiem expander
1 ppg wave with waveterm
1 arp oddessy
1 doepfer analog sequencer
1 oberhiem analog sequencer
1 ob mx
1 roland mks 80
1 roland r70
marshall jmp 1
assorted gtr pedals and cheap drum machines"
A:9 "What is Trent whispering?"
- In "Sanctified", during the instrumental preceding the final verse, you
will hear a very quiet voice in the background. It is a sample from Oliver
Stone's 'Midnight Express', one of Trent's favorite movies. The sample is
of the main character writing a letter:
"Dear Mom and Dad, this is the hardest letter I've ever had to write. I'd
hoped somehow to get out of this quickly so that you'd never have to know
about it, but that just isn't possible now. I don't know what's going to
happen, but what can I say to you? Will 'I'm sorry' make a difference?
Will it ease the pain? The shame you must be feeling? Forgive me. Please."
- Also, as far as whispering goes, about 30 seconds into "Physical", Trent
whispers something. Most people seem to agree that he is whispering "Eat
your heart out, Steve" in reference to Steve Gottlieb, TVT's manager/owner.
This is whispered on this particular song because it is a cover and a hidden
track, and evidently, they had to go through a bunch of copyright bullshit
to be able to release it. (It is well known that Trent and Steve have had
their disputes over copyright laws and over who's in charge.)
Note: The Adam Ant version of "Physical" also has whispering, most
notable at the beginning he says "Eat Your Heart Out, Do-It. You can't
do it, can ya?". Adam Ant was referring to Do-It Records, a label they
were on.
- In "Mr Self Destruct" Trent is in fact whispering "I am an exit".
A:10 "What is nin's connection to..."
a. "...the Revolting Cocks?"
Trent is listed as an "Additional Cock" on the inside of the Revolting
Cocks (Al, Paul, and Bill from Ministry, with friends) CD-single for
_Beers Steers And Queers_. Trent is also listed in _Linger Ficken' Good_
under the thanks list (T.R.). Trent toured with RevCo, taking the spot
vacated by Ogre.
~~~
b. "...Stabbing Westward?"
Chris Vrenna, former NIN drummer, went on tour with them a while back.
~~~
c. "...Filter?"
Richard Patrick was Trent's best friend during the Pretty Hate Machine
Tour, and the guitar player for the live show. Many rumors are floating
around about just why Richard left the group, but he now fronts up the
band Filter. About whether Richard is ever going to come back to NIN,
In Spin Magazine (Feb. 1996) Trent is quoted as saying "...there's been a
drunken phone call to me to say hello. And then asking an ex-girlfriend of
mine out on a date. Those guys. In their minds, they're stars."
As of late, though, it seems that there has been somewhat of a reconciliation
between the two parties. Here is what Brian Liesgang, formerly of Filter,
had to say about the situation, and "a night of nothing" in New York, as
quoted from Addicted To Noise Magazine (http://www.addict.com):
"We still have mutual friends in NIN. I ran into Trent a few months ago and
we hung and it was cool. We ran into some friends and they told us about
this secret show and invited us to come by and we just did the same old
thing. Trent and Rich and I all have a penchant for Budweiser and tequila,
so we just sat there and drank a while, then Rich said, 'Hey, I want to play
"Head Like a Hole" again,' and Trent said, 'Okay.' Simple as that. It wasn't
any big deal. I thought it was cool. Trent came over to him and said, 'Smash
the fucker.' And he dutifully did it..."
~~~
d. "...Die Warzau?"
Chris Vrenna and James Woolley (former keyboardist) used to participate in
some fashion in the Chicago-based band Die Warzau. Die Warzau is now no
more, thanks to them wannabes at TVT.
~~~
e. "...Tori Amos?"
Trent sang backup vocals in Tori Amos' "Past The Mission" on her _Under the
Pink_ CD. However, he does not appear in the video. Another note: even
though she mentions 'nine inch nails' on _Little Earthquakes_, this is not
where Trent got the name for his band. nine inch nails was already in full
effect when this CD came out.
Also, the phrase "...made my own pretty hate machine..." is in the lyrics
for the song "Caught a Light Sneeze" on her new album _Boys For Pele_.
~~~
f. "...David Bowie?"
David Bowie's late 70's recordings greatly influenced Trent, especially
during the recording of TDS. David Bowie was sampled for some nine inch
nails songs including the re-mixes of "mr self destruct" (See section
E:5). Trent remixed the song "The Heart's Filthy Lesson" on Bowie's
album _Outside_, and also took NIN on the road with him on his _Outside_
tour.
More recently, Trent put together five remixes of the track "I'm Afraid of
Americans" from Bowie's _Earthling_ album. Trent sings backup vocals on one
of the tracks, and has Ice Cube (see section A:29) rap on another.
~~~
g. "...Ministry?"
Trent and Al Jourgenson both remixed "get down make love" (see section B:6)
for the _sin_ single. Trent and Al were also both in RevCo at the same time
(see section A:10a). Trent and Al were also both part of 1,000 Homo DJs
(See section A:10i).
~~~
h. "...Guns n' Roses?"
Trent and Co. opened for GnR shortly after the Lollapalooza tour.
Here is what he had to say about that, quoted from Musician:
" ... Axl Rose made contact with us. He was a fan, and wanted to
help out. We were going to Europe to do a tour and figured what better
way to confuse people then to open for Gn'R? Se we did, and the audience
hated us. We were terrified to start with, and then were talking onstage
in front of 65,000 people in Germany. The first song goes okay. Second
song people begin to realize we're not Skid Row, who came on after us.
Third song they'd confirmed the fact that they've heard a synthesizer
and its time to attack. There's something about the sight of every
single person flipping you off in a giant stadium that makes you go
numb. I started laughing, then insulted them with everything I could
think of ... "
~~~
i. "...1,000 Homo DJs?"
Trent and Al Jourgenson did a cover of Black Sabbath's "supernaut" for
1,000 Homo DJs. But thanks to TVT, Al Jourgenson was forced to take out
Trent's vocals (It was later revealed that Al never did in fact re-sing
"supernaut" for the official 1kHD release, but he just played with Trent's
vocals and told TVT he re-sang it). The original version can be found on
Wax Trax's _Black Box_ 3-disc compilation.
~~~
j. "...Pigface?"
Pigface, the mind-child of drummer and producer Martin Atkins, is
typically dubbed an 'Industrial Super-group' because of its continual
rotating roster of musicians. Trent became involved in the band's first
incarnation on the album _Gub_ to create and sing the original version of
the song "Suck" and is also credited with loops on "The Bushmaster".
Trent and Chris Vrenna toured with Pigface for a while on the "Welcome
To Mexico...Asshole" Tour, and Trent can also be seen on Pigface's
_Glitch_ video singing "Suck" with Nivek Ogre of Skinny Puppy. There
were some rumors of personal turmoil between Pigface and Trent
surrounding Trent's departure from the band, but Atkins claims that
their relationship is "very good. Just like any friendship."
~~~
k. "...Curve?"
Trent and Flood remixed track 1, "Missing Link", on the
_BlackerThreeTrackerTwo_ EP.
A:11 "I like NIN, What other bands might I enjoy?"
If you are looking for bands that sound quite similar to NIN (pre-perfect
drug), you most likely will enjoy bands that fall into the industrial
category. Industrial music is defined by its use of distorted guitars and
vocals, along with many different synthesized sounds and samples. Bands such
as Ministry, Front Line Assembly, Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, and Sister Machine Gun
would probably be worth checking out if you like hard and abrasive stuff.
Also, more commercial bands such as Stabbing Westward and Gravity Kills might
pique your interests, even though many claim that they are shameless NIN rip-
offs. You can find out more about industrial music on Usenet in the
newsgroup rec.music.industrial.
You also might check out the musicians and bands that are mentioned in the
previous section (A:10) for some more choices that you might like.
A:12 "Who has covered NIN?"
Not that many bands have yet, but the ones that have done, well, interesting
things with the songs. Trixter (yes, Trixter) covered "Terrible Lie" a while
back, Devo remade "Head Like a Hole" for the Supercop soundtrack, and a band
by the name of nine inch richards made a parody of "Closer" called "Closer to
Hogs", a play on the name of the "Closer" single disc. I guess it should
also be mentioned that Maxwell has sang parts of "Closer" in one of his
songs, plus Ice Cube sampled "Hurt" for a track on a project of his.
And probably most importantly, the king of silly songs himself, Weird Al
Yankovich, remade a short part of "Closer" for his "Alternative Polka"
single.
A:13 "What is 'nothing'?"
Located in the Tremont area of Cleveland, Ohio, 'nothing' is Trent
Reznor's record label. With this label, Trent has given many otherwise
obscure bands the notoriety they deserved. Trent treats the bands on
the label with the same respect with which he himself would want to be
treated. According to Marilyn Manson, "Trent gives us full artistic
freedom, the kind of freedom no other label would even consider giving a
band." Sooner or later Trent wants to stop, and just produce. "There's
going to be a point where.. I can't do both things (production and NIN).
I can't do it. I tried. So at some point I would like to focus on
production, which I would really like to do more of, but nine inch nails
eats up every second of my life."
The current list of bands on nothing are:
nine inch nails Prick
Marilyn Manson Meat Beat Manifesto
Pop Will Eat Itself Coil
Plug Two
Einsturzende Neubauten 12 Rounds
Autechre Squarepusher
Note: Ok, the info about Cop Shoot Cop being signed seems untrue now. I
have been told that they broke up, so it would be rather hard for them
to be signed now, don't ya think?
Another band that has been rumored to be signed is The Wolfgang Press.
A:14 "What is 'Le Pig'?"
Le Pig was Trent's house / recording studio for the making of _The Downward
Spiral_. Trent says that at the time he rented it, he did not know that
this was the same house in which the Manson murders occurred. On a side
note, Marilyn Manson recorded a few tracks off their album _Portrait of an
American Family_ in that house with Trent. It was "something they had wanted
to do for a long time."
A:15 "Was Trent in a movie?"
In the 1987 movie 'Light of Day', Trent appears with an old Cleveland
based band The Problems. They did a cover of the Buddy Holly song, "True
Love Ways". Yes, that's him playing the tilted keyboard on the left
(you can see him for a few seconds when they show Joan Jett at the table)
and then again later that's him with the drink taking down the set.
(This scene occurs about 1 hour and 17 minutes into the movie.)
"True Love Ways" does not appear on the 'Light of Day' Soundtrack.
And well, no, that was not him in 'The Crow' crowd surfing to My Life With
The Thrill Kill Kult.
A:16 "What NIN songs have appeared in movies?"
As far as I know...
An edit of the _Fixed_ remix of "Gave Up" appeared at the beginning of
'Young Americans'.
"Burn", "A Warm Place" and an extended "Something I Can Never Have" were
in 'Natural Born Killers' (Trent also put together the whole movie's
soundtrack, see section A:17).
"Head Like a Hole" was in a movie called 'Prayer of the Roller Boys'.
"Dead Souls", a cover of the Joy Division song by the same name, is featured
in 'The Crow' movie and on the soundtrack.
"Head Like a Hole" was also in the movie 'Class of 1999 ]['
"Closer (precursor)", a remix of "Closer" which appears on Halo 9, is
featured during the opening credits of the movie 'Seven'.
"Closer to God", "Closer (internal)", "The Art of Self Destruction
part I", and possibly another mix of either song appear in the movie
'The Fan'.
"Heresy" appeared in 'The Doom Generation'
"The Perfect Drug", and two tracks credited only to Trent Reznor, titled
"Videodrones; Questions" and "Driver Down", appear in David Lynch's
'Lost Highway'. Trent produced the entire soundtrack, as well.
A:17 "What's the story with 'Natural Born Killers'?"
When shown an edit of Oliver Stone's 'Natural Born Killers', Trent
decided to produce the soundtrack. To do this Trent sampled over 80
songs and made a very diverse soundtrack that included 3 NIN tracks,
"Something I Can Never Have", "A Warm Place" And "Burn".
And in the summer of 1996, "Natural Born Killers" Director's Cut was
released, including over an hour of never before seen, unedited footage.
The video for "Burn" is also included in this two-tape set.
A:18 "What bands were Trent in before nine inch nails?"
This info comes straight from Alex Fletcher's nine inch nails discography,
which can be found on the web at http://democracy.queensu.ca/~fletcher/Nin/.
-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
Trent was in the following bands, previous to the creation of Nine Inch
Nails (in probable order):
Option 30 (a band back in Mercer, PA)
The Urge (called a cover band, which implies they covered other
artists)
The Innocents (One record called Living On The St. was released.
This was his first Cleveland band)
Slam Bam Boo (Trent did Keyboards, Programming and, backing vocals)
Hanson: The Movie (Trent did Keyboards, Programming, and
engineering)
Lucky Pierre (this was Kevin McMahon's band, the guy behind Prick.
Trent played keyboards, live only, during the 84-85 period.
He also appeared on the 1988 Communique EP.
The Exotic Birds
"The Problems" from the movie "The Light of Day" was Michael J.
Fox and Joan Jett's backup band and was composed of Trent Reznor
(on keyboards), Frank Vale (from the Exotic Birds), and Mark
Addison (from the Nation Of One)
A:19 "What about the live album and movie from the spiral tour?"
Unbelievable as it may seem, the video from the Self-Destruct Tour is going
to be released soon. Expected to hit the stores on November 25th, this two-
video set will contain material from the tour, complete with live
performances and behind-the-scenes footage that has never been before, and
all of the officially released NIN videos to date. There is much speculation
whether or not the _Broken_ movie will be on this tape...looks like we'll all
just have to wait.
And as cool as this news about the video is, the live album is still
unaccounted for.
A:20 "Any information about the next album?"
As of November 1997, all that is known is that the album is being "worked
on". Whether that means being written or recorded is not really known by
many. If I had to make a guess, I would say that some tracks have definitely
been layed down, seeing that the talk of the release date seems to be in
Spring of 1998. Plus, in the October 97 issue of CMJ, it is mentioned that
Rick Rubin is joining Trent in the studio to work on the new material.
The most info I can give is what I have seen in interviews, which I have
copied relevant sections from below. Check that stuff out for now, and I'll
have more info as I get it...
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And here's what Trent has to say about the "blueprint" of the next album,
according to the Feb. 97 issue of Raygun:
"If this makes sense, it's more song oriented. Less dense, more about
the *song*, and less about ten songs that are all about this *thing*. That
may change, but the way it's going right now it's more minimal and more
organic, but more electronic at the same time. But less parts, and each
part is more important on, like, _Broken_, where there's a *million* parts
on top of each other. I'd like to have a good melody, and that doesn't
necessarily mean more accessible or commercial. I'm more into studying the
art form of writing a good song..."
He also told Rolling Stone in the March 1997 issue the following:
"...the new nine inch nails will be more like a funk hip-hop record. It
will piss a lot of people off, and it's going to change the world at the same
time, I hope. that's all I can aspire to. That and staying 10 steps ahead of
Billy Corgan."
It is now also known that Rick Rubin, who has worked with acts such as the
Beastie Boys and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, is going to be producing the next
NIN album.
A:21 "What is this about a funeral home?"
The funeral home is now the location of Nothing Studios. When Trent moved
down to New Orleans, he bought the home so that he could have a permanent
place for himself and those on his label (as well as others) to record. So
far, Marilyn Manson, Pantera, Coil and others have used it for their albums.
Also, NIN recorded the Quake soundtrack there.
A:22 "Little tidbits about NIN"
*Note* This section is getting a bit stale...if you guys think that you
know something interesting that might not be that well known, send
it to me at daveparm@student.umass.edu.
Here are a few little interesting facts about NIN:
- *EVERY* NIN show (on the spiral tours) was taped and filmed
- There is a heater company called 'Reznor Heaters'.. The company's
founders are Trent's ancestors. See section A:24 for more info.
- A parody band, Nine Inch Richards, did a song called "Closer to Hogs"
which is a parody of NIN's "Closer". Nine Inch Richards is in no way
related to NIN. And they are, in fact, quite lame.
- That is Richard Patrick's brother, Robert, playing the T-1000 on
Terminator ][
A:23 "How did the band get all muddy at Woodstock?"
According to Trent (Quoted from Rip magazine):
"We were right out by the big mud pit and watchin' everybody, I thought,
'well, this looks like a lot of fun.' At that time there wasn't that many
people that were muddy, but the people that *were* in the mud looked like
they were having a great time and we thought 'fuck, y'know, we kinda can't
actually do that.' But we didn't have showers backstage at that time
either, so we went back and hung out backstage, and it was just a real
nervous day. Then on the way to the stage I pushed Danny [Lohner], our
guitar player, and he just fell face-first into the mud. Then he tackled
me and it turned into a kind of all-male mud wrestling thing. It was
actually really funny. After we did that, all nervousness kind of
subsided."
A:24 "I saw a Reznor heater somewhere...Is there a connection with Trent?"
Robin Colleen Moore replies:
"As a matter of fact, there *is* a connection! The Reznor company was
founded in 1888 in (you guessed it!) Mercer, PA by one George Reznor,
an ancestor of Trent's. (We don't know the specifics of the relationship,
but we think it's his great- or great-great grandfather...) In addition to
starting the company, George also invented the original Reznor gas
heater, which was one of the first heaters designed for domestic use.
To quote the company brochure:
"Reznor was founded in 1888 to manufacture the 'Reznor' reflective heater,
which utilized a luminous flame gas burner developed by George Reznor.
This technological breakthrough was an immediate success and
hastened the expansion of gas heating in residential and commercial
applications. Technological development and innovation have been the
hallmark of Reznor through the years."
(In other words, if not for Trent's family, we'd all be sitting around
freezing our butts off and listening to (your choice of lousy band or
musician here)...so think of them whenever you're snuggled up in your nice
toasty home listening to music while it's freezing cold outside!)
The Reznor family apparently sold the business to an outside company
around World War II (it's currently owned by ITT/Thomas & Betts), but
it's still in business today, cranking out various types of heaters and
central heating & cooling units, in addition to being the single largest
employer in Mercer. (According to the regional representative's
secretary, the biggest Reznor customers in Georgia are schools and
prisons; the company doesn't really do small-scale domestic heating
any more, but a few homes do still have Reznor systems.) The most
common places to run into Reznors are restaurants, small stores
and boutiques, garages, barns, nightclubs and bars, especially
if they're located in an older building or a warehouse-type setting.
Most of the heaters you'll see are small-to-medium sized ceiling-
mounted, gas-powered units w/a fan in the back, and tend to
come in 2 basic styles: (1) silver-toned metal with "REZNOR"
in raised letters on the front; and (2) painted metal with a small plaque
(or "ratings plate") that says "REZNOR/Mercer, Pennsylvania" bolted
onto either the lower front corner or on the side.
Apparently a Reznor heater plays a prominent role in the Sean Connery/
Nicolas Cage movie _The Rock_, falling on and squishing one of the
actors (I haven't seen it myself, so I can't say for sure; this is what I
was told). Anyone knowing of any other mass media Reznor sightings
should please contact either the writers of this FAQ or yours truly at
robin@mindspring.com, for inclusion in updated versions of the FAQ."
A:25 "Did NIN do the sound effects and soundtrack for the game Quake?"
Yup. And you can hear the songs if you play your CD in a regular
CD player; just be sure to skip track #1. Even the demo version has the
tracks, so go to your local computer store and pick one up. The music is
all instrumental (save a few faint whispers and the like) and is very dark
and ambient. It goes along with the game quite nicely.
A:26 "When and where has NIN toured?"
I'm not even going to try to list off all the places that they have played,
but luckily someone has. Check out:
http://democracy.queensu.ca/~fletcher/Nin/Tours/
for a very detailed list of where the tours and live shows were played, and
when they happened. It is definitely the best compilation of NIN tour info
on the Internet.
A:27 "What's up with 'Lost Highway' and 'The Perfect Drug'?"
Trent put together the soundtrack for Twin Peaks creator David Lynch's
movie, Lost Highway. On it is the movie's score by Angelo Badalamenti,
as well as two Marilyn Manson tracks ("Apple of Sodom" and "I Put A Spell
On You"), songs from David Bowie and Lou Reed, new Smashing Pumpkins, and
NIN's "the perfect drug", plus two tracks credited to Reznor only
("Videodrones; Questions", and "Driver Down"). The soundtrack was released
on February 18th, 1997.
For more info on "the perfect drug" and the remix EP, see section F.
A:28 "What is Tapeworm?"
Tapeworm is a side project of NIN members Danny Lohner, Charlie Clouser,
and Trent Reznor. Sean Beavan, NIN's sound engineer, is supposed to be
working with them, too. From what I understand, artists such as Rob Zombie,
Tommy Victor of Prong, and others will be invited to take part in the
festivities.
Here's what Trent told Raygun about the project:
"...the idea behind it was - a couple of members of my band, Danny Lohner
and Charlie Clouser - it started as kind of a dumping ground for ideas they
might have that weren't right for nine inch nails, and it's kind of evolved
into having its own identity where tentatively I'm more the singer/producer
and they're wiring the music. It's more of a collaborative thing..."
"...I want those guys to contribute things and once in a while I'll come
up with something that I think is cool, but it's not the giant leap. Like, if
I think the nine inch nails record has to be all dobro and Jew's harp, then
it has to be that. But maybe I'll write a cool fuckin' riff that isn't
right for whatever new artistic plateau I'm hoping for nine inch nails, and
if I establish this other ground as a place to relax and have fun and maybe
make even better music, that's what Tapeworm initially was."
He also goes on to state that some of the Tapeworm stuff may end up being
NIN stuff, but right now is thinking of NIN as "something that comes more
out of me directly."
A:29 "Is Trent going to be working with Dr. Dre and Ice Cube?"
Actually, the Ice Cube collaboration has already happened, and that's
not to say that more will not happen in the future, either. Cube rapped on a
remix of David Bowie's "I'm Afraid of Americans" that Trent did recently.
There is still no sign of any work with Dr. Dre, but I wouldn't be surprised
if we see that sometime in the near future.
Trent's comments from the February 1997 issue of Raygun:
"...Dre's a fucking genius. Rick Rubin and I met him in the valley like
two weeks ago. he's expressed interest in working with me in some capacity
and, like, the same day Ice Cube sent me a fax saying, "I want to work
with you," and Ice Cube, I think, is the best rapper I've ever heard
ever."
He also explains that it will not just be a remixing situation, or just him
singing on a Dre track, or Ice Cube singing on one of Trent's. It appears
that they are going to go for some real ground-breaking material with the
collaboration and try to "*change music*."
Even before this article, there was a connection between Trent and Ice Cube.
On Cube's new band Westside Connection's new CD "bow down", "hurt" is sampled
on the track "The Gangsta, The Killer, and The Dope Dealer."
Stay tuned for more as we get it...
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B:1 "What's with the extra lyrics that are printed, but not sung?"
According to Trent:
"There were some lyrics that I had written that I couldn't fit into
the songs as I was combining lyrics with music. I included them because
I like them and also because they could be discovered by the person that
took the time to read the lyrics."
Some of these lyrics were used in the original version of "Ringfinger"
called "Twist". See section I:2 for more info.
B:2 "What is _PHM_'s album cover a picture of?"
Once again, I quote from Trent:
"The cover of _PHM_ is a photo of the blades of some sort of turbine
stretched vertically so they would look somewhat like bones or a ribcage."
B:3 "What's the difference between Euro and American _HLAH_ and _Sin_?"
The American release of _HLAH_ has 4 mixes of the song (slate, clay,
copper, and soil) as well as instrumental "You Know Who You Are", 3
versions of "Down In It" (shred, singe, and demo), and 2 mixes of
"Terrible Lie" (sympathetic and empathetic). The UK release only has
3 tracks: the slate and copper mixes, and one that didn't make it to
the American release: the Opal mix. The UK version of _Sin_ comes in
a black, instead of red, case, but the tracks are the same (they're
in a different order, however).
B:4 "What is that last track on the _HLAH_ single?"
Track 11 on Halo 3 (the woman yelling "Let's hear it for nine inch nails --
woo they're GOOD!") was from a nin appearance on Dance Party USA. Apparently
the yelling woman was the show's host.
B:5 "Where are the samples at the beginning of "get down make love" from?"
And again, Sean Beavan:
"I think the sample at the beginning of 'get down make love' is from an old
viacom cable access show called 'Video Psychotherapy'... That sample along
with the Japanese porno samples were added in Chicago with Al Jourgenson.
I did only the basic track recordings in Cleveland. Those samples were
added during the mix."
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C:1 "What's the difference between all the _Broken_s?"
Well, _Broken_ was released in many formats:
a. As the 5" CD with the six named tracks, enclosed with a smaller,
3" CD with the bonus tracks.
b. As the 5" CD with tracks 1-6 as the normal songs, tracks 7-97
each one second long and blank, tracks 98-99 as the bonus tracks.
c. As the 5" CD with tracks 1-6 as the normal songs and tracks 7 and
8 as the bonus stuff.
d. As the 5" CD with only 1-6 being the normal songs, without the
bonus tracks entirely. This form is the result of lame record-store
owners taking out the 3" to sell separately, leaving them with a 6
track broken to sell separately. There never was a 6 track broken
produced.
Now, _Broken_ is produced as the 1-6, 98-99 track CD and I imagine it will
stay this way.
If, on the other hand, you purchased _Broken_ on vinyl, that the EP itself
(the six normal tracks) were on standard 12" vinyl, while the bonus tracks
were a black label 7". Another form of the _Broken_ vinyl has tracks 1-6
on side a and the bonus tracks on side b.
The names of the bonus tracks are "Physical (You're so)", which was
originally written and performed by Adam Ant, and "Suck", written by Reznor
and Pigface.
C:2 "What does 'warning: not for use with mono devices'in the liner notes
mean?"
Well, according to Trent:
"Regarding the warning for 'mono' devices... Without getting too far in
detail, a scientific property of sound is its 'phase'. When recording
music in stereo, you're supposed to be aware of it's phase. If not,
certain parts of the sound will disappear when its played in mono.
So, we discovered that by messing around with the phase, we could make
elements of the music stand out rather oddly. So...certain songs on _Broken_
we mixed out of phase (because we felt like it) BUT... The songs don't sound
right on mono devices (like some radios or TVs). Has anyone heard "Happiness
in Slavery" on the radio? I heard it on KROQ in LA and the snare drum was
gone through most of the song. (and yes, it kind of destroys the groove!)
So, basically, that's what that means."
C:3 "What does "barks and roars: maise" mean in the credits of _Broken_?"
Well, during the song "physical (you're so)", Trent's late dog, Maise,
can be heard barking and "roaring" in the background. The barks sound like
roars because they were taping her at double speed, and it was played back
at normal for the final track. At 3:49 in the song, if you can somehow speed
the recording up (by using a soundcard, adjustable speed CD player, etc.),
you can hear something to the effect of "....ow!....fucker!...". That
was Maise biting none other than Sean Beavan, and his reaction afterwards.
C:4 "What does "no thanks: you know who you fucking are" mean in the credits?"
This most likely refers to Steve Gottlieb and TVT records, for proving to be
a less-than-wonderful record label for NIN. You will also note the little
quote that comes right after this, which says "the slave thinks he is
released from bondage, only to find a stronger set of chains." This probably
is in reference to the TVT situation as well. See the note in section A:9
for more about Gottlieb.
C:5 "Are there any singles off of _Broken_?"
No. There are promos for _Broken_, but no singles. _Fixed_ is the only
_Broken_ follow-up CD, and it consists of remixes of _Broken_ songs. It
was released as a single, yet is not considered to be one... for the
following reasons... [see next section]
C:6 "Is _Fixed_ a limited edition? Why?"
Sort of. The Domestic printing was limited originally. Couple things,
however: A typical release of a "limited edition" of anything would be
1000-2000 copies. For _Fixed_, it's heard that as many as 50,000 copies
were released domestically. As of late, imports off Island/TVT have been
proliferating the mainstream stores.
There are a few theories as to why _Fixed_ is limited. One holds that
_Fixed_ was kept limited in order to not interfere with the MTV-inspired
success of _Broken_, and will be re-issued in about a year as a non-limited.
It is now around import-wise. Also, collectors LOVE limiteds. Also, maybe
they just thought it wouldn't sell well. It was also just a "single".
All singles have limited runs.
C:7 "What is the difference between the import and domestic _Fixed_?"
Well, the import version CD is printed with a few more copyright notices,
etc.. and the color used is a light bluish type paint. In contrast, the
domestic version was printed with less copyright notices on the CD, and
the "n" is a cool shiny blue.
C:8 "Who does the remixes on _Fixed_?"
Coil remixes "Gave Up"; Jim G. Thirwell (he's also the voice on MTV Sports)
remixed "Wish" into "Wish (remix)" and "Fist Fuck"; Trent Reznor, Chris
Vrenna and Butch Vig remixed "Suck" and "Last" into "Throw This Away"; PK
remixed "Happiness in Slavery"; Reznor, Vrenna and a slew of others
mutilated "Happiness in Slavery" into "Screaming Slave"
C:9 "What is that 'I could feel that way too' from?"
The quote (found half way through _Fixed_'s "Fist Fuck") "I could feel that
way too ... I bet you will someday" is sampled from the musical Show Boat.
Kathryn Grayson as Nolie Hawks and Ava Gardner as Julie LaVerne were the
actresses, and this scene occurs about 28 minutes into the movie.
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D:1 "Why did it take so long?"
In the words of Trent:
"I tend to get bored when people start saying, `Where's the record
already?' Hey, I'm not fucking off in there. It just takes a long time.
Nirvana may be able to make a record in two weeks. That's great. We're
not doing that. To me, every song means reinventing the whole process.
There are no constants except maybe that I'll sing it. But are the rhythm
tracks going to be played or sequenced? Are they going to be real, fake,
machines, drums, sounds, car doors slamming? It's not a simple matter of
yelling out chords to someone across the room and starting the tape
machine. It's a different situation. I'm not saying that makes my record
any better than theirs. It's just a different set of parameters."
D:2 "What singles are there off of _TDS_?"
_The Downward Spiral_ has produced 4 singles to date. _Piggy_ and _Hurt_ were
never released as their own singles, but they were serviced to radio. _March
of the Pigs_ and _Closer to God_ (the title of the "Closer" single) were
released commercially. These two singles have American and European releases
with no major track differences, except the following subtle changes:
Both European CDs come in 2-CD sets, with each CD sold separately,
and the Euro _Closer_ has no halo number.
"Big Man With a Gun" was included in the Euro release of _MOTP_.
The cover art for disk one is red/pink like the American, but
disk two has blue cover art.
The Euro _Closer_ is similar to the American except for the cover art, in
which the Euro cover has a larger, 'opened' millipede as opposed to the
American's smaller, 'closed' millipede.
Also is the follow up album, _Further Down the Spiral_. Check out
section E for information
D:3 "What is trent whispering in 'Mr Self Destruct'?"
According to Sean Beavan, Trent whispers "I am an exit" right after
the words "You let me do this to you"
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E:1 "What is _Further Down the Spiral_?"
It's the follow up album to _The Downward Spiral_, much like what _Fixed_
was to _Broken_, this album consists of 11 remix tracks. The UK version
has 10, and the Japanese, 11. See section E:3.
E:2 "Where are those hidden 'erase me's?"
If you listen to track eleven ("Erased, Over, Out") in fast forward, you
will hear Trent screaming 'erase me' over and over. Also, on track 6
("Eraser (Denial; Realization)") he says it twice: once at the beginning,
and then again once toward the end.
E:3 "What are the differences between Halo 10 and Halo 10v2?"
Version 1 was the American release, while version 2 was the UK/Japan
release. The UK version has 4 tracks different from the American:
"heresy (version)", "ruiner (version)", "self destruction, part three" and
"hurt (live)". The first two are remixes by Charlie Clouser; the latter
is the live recording used in the video for the track by the same name.
Another difference is production. The American version was packaged in
a jewel, on a glossy disk. The UK version was packaged in a cardboard
sleeve on a lower quality, low gloss CD. Apparently the Japanese version
has the same track listing as v2 (and indeed has v2 on the disk) but has
been released with a bonus track - "Reptilian" (just as _TDS_ in Japan
has "Dead Souls" as a bonus track). The packaging is cardboard, same as the
UK, but the disk is a better quality, glossy type.
E:4 "When was it released, and on what formats?"
Halo 10 was officially released May 23, 1995 on all the standard formats:
Vinyl, CD, and Cassette. However, most stores did not get it until a week
later.
E:5 "What is that 'Falls wanking to the floor' from?"
About 4:30 into "self destruction, part two" you hear David Bowie singing
'Falls wanking to the floor'. This is a sample from the song "Time" off his
1973 album _Aladdin Sane_.
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F:1 "What is 'The Perfect Drug'?"
"The Perfect Drug" is the latest single that NIN has released. It first
appeared on the radio in January of 1997, and was available commercially in
February on the "Lost Highway" soundtrack. In this quote from Raygun
magazine, Trent gives some insight into the development of the song:
"'The Perfect Drug' lyrically and thematically was inspired by the film, but
musically the way it happened to come out...It was one of those: One week.
Write a song. Mix it. Done. I don't like to work that way. But I reached the
stage where i was excited about it, yet it wasn't necessarily appropriate
for the movie. And at the end of the day I am nine inch nails and I have to
do what's right for me. So I gave it to him and said, 'I don't know if this
is the right thing for your film sonically, but this is the song I had to
write now and I had to be true to myself.'"
F:2 "Why did I hear the song before it was officially released?"
This is because of a leak of the song to KROQ in Los Angeles around the end
of November 1996. Someone obviously digitized the song right from the
radio, and it made it's way all over the Internet. From there, DJs from
radio stations would download a copy of it, and then play it, claiming that
they had an "exclusive" or "advance copy" of the song. According to Jason
Patterson, Trent was flattered that his fans wanted to hear the song right
away, but feels that it "was not the right way to go about it."
And if you are wondering what the whooshing sound is from at the beginning
of the RealAudio file, it is the tail-end of "videodrones; questions" from
the LH soundtrack.
F:3 "Are 'The Perfect Drug' and 'The Beauty of the Drug' the same song?"
Nope. "the beauty of the drug" was supposed to be a song on
_The Downward Spiral_, but was cut out. Some believed that Trent just
rehashed that song when he made TPD, but this is not true. See F:1 for more
on how TPD developed.
F:4 "What is 'The Perfect Drug' Versions?"
This is the remix EP of the song "The Perfect Drug" that can be found on the
"Lost Highway" soundtrack.
It carries the catalog number "halo eleven-INTDM 95007."
F:5 "Who remixed the tracks?"
It contains 5 remixes of the original song, done by Meat Beat Manifesto,
Plug, NIN, Spacetime Continuum, and The Orb, respectively.
Here is what the credits say:
"[1] Remix and additional production by Jack Dangers
Engineered by Josh T. Roberts at Toast Studios, S.F.
[2] Remix and additional production by Luke Vibert
[3] Remixed by Trent Reznor and Keith Hillebrant
Engineered/mixed by Brian Pollack at Nothing Studios, New Orleans
[4] Recreated by Jonah Sharp
[5] Remixed by The Orb Engineered by Andy Hughes"
F:6 "Is the vinyl promo for Halo Eleven different than the commercial one?"
Yes. The 12" dj promo has all of the tracks on the CD, plus a remix done
by Aphrodite.
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G:1 "Was there a Halo 00?"
No, this is a bootleg. And it's not worth the price when you can get
one of the 2 tracks on WaxTrax! _The Black Box_
(Trent/Al Jourgenson's cover of Black Sabbath's classic "Supernaut")
(See section I:2 for info on where else to get these songs)
G:2 "What is this plain-looking CD that claims to be Halo 10?"
You probably have the promo CD for either "Piggy" or "Hurt". These were
two promos that were put out with halo numbers on them.
G:3 "Why is it getting so hard to find the domestic _Closer_?"
Well, they are out of production in America. You can still get the imported,
double CD set fairly easily though.
G:4 "What are the Fisted Box Set and the FTDS Box Set?"
The Fisted Box Set is just a cheaply made bootleg. It has a cheap T-shirt,
some cheaper buttons, and some still in-print CD singles. Everyone who has
bought it, even the most die-hard nin collector, has said it's a major waste
of money. This also can be said for the FTDS box set, an overpriced tin can
which contains Halo 10v2 and 3 cheaply made buttons (n,i,n).
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H:1 "Ninformation about each officially released video"
"Down In It"
Down in It, Trent and Co.'s first video, for some reason is never
shown on MTV in its original form. See, in the original video, Trent
falls off the building he is walking on, and is shown dead, apparently
for a few days. Anyway, this video somehow got into the hands of the
FBI, who spent a few weeks looking for the makers of this 'SNUFF FILM'
as it was thought to be when it was found. Ironically enough, Trent
(the dead guy) was also in hiding, recording _Broken_ under false band
names so TVT wouldn't know what he was doing. The censored version is
pretty much the same thing, with the scenes of 'dead trent' taken out.
"Head Like a Hole"
A 'live' video in which the band is in a cage-like stage. Toward the end
the band is overtaken by the surroundings, resulting in an upside-down
suspended Trent. This video was released in 2 versions: one being the
standard, and one being the Flood remix.
"Pinion"
DATE RELEASED : Feb. 1992
DIRECTOR : Peter Christopherson
Pinion is what Alternative Nation ripped off. It basically starts off
with a toilet being flushed, then you follow the flushed water down the
plumbing until it gets to the mouth of a bound man being tortured.
"Wish"
DATE RELEASED : Feb. 1992
DIRECTOR : Peter Christopherson
Wish is another 'live' video, this one is in an elaborate caged-in
'stage' in which the audience is trying to get to the band through the
cage. At the end of the un-edited version, they finally break through
and get Trent.
"Happiness in Slavery"
DATE RELEASED : 1992
DIRECTOR : Jonathan Reiss
This video has never been seen on MTV for very obvious reasons. The video
contains a man (Bob Flanagan--READ: Section H:3) being tortured to death
by his own free will. At the end, Trent comes in for his turn. It is a
must see video, shot all in black and white.
"March of the Pigs"
DATE RELEASED : March 1994
DIRECTOR : Peter Christopherson / Trent Reznor
March of the Pigs was a very low budget, thrown together live performance
of the track. Very good video.
"Closer"
DATE RELEASED : June 1994
DIRECTOR : Mark Romanek
Closer was nine inch nails' 'breakthrough' video. Much of it was filmed
on old 1920s' file Trent acquired. It was put out in 2 versions: MTV's
censored one with 'scene missing' in place of some of the more explicit
shots, and the uncensored version.
"Burn"
DATE RELEASED : August 24, 1994
DIRECTOR : Hank Corwin / Trent Reznor
Burn is a video for the soundtrack of 'Natural Born Killers'. The video
contains many scenes from the movie, and Trent singing in a white
tee-shirt and jeans.
(see section A:17 for more info)
"Hurt"
DATE RELEASED : March 1995
DIRECTOR : Simon Maxwell
Hurt is a live video from the 94-95 tour, shot in Omaha/Dallas
(See Section H:4). The backdrop contains footage of rapidly decaying
animals, predators, and old World War ][ footage.
"The Perfect Drug"
DATE RELEASED : January 18, 1997
DIRECTOR : Mark Romanek
This newest video boasts Trent with a goatee, and many visuals that appear
to be taken straight from the artwork of Edward Gorey. Check out
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/3674/gorey.html for a good look
at the parallels between Gorey and TPD. Mr. Reznor is also pictured
preparing and drinking absinthe, a very potent and illegal alcoholic
beverage. And those three guys? It's Charlie, Danny, and Chris.
Apparently the video for "Sin" was not released because of some more
TVT legal problems. The video was supposedly released to certain dance
clubs, though. See section H:7.
A long-form video of _Broken_ was made by Trent and Peter Christopherson.
See section H:2.
H:2 "The Broken Movie, Oh My God"
Yes, that is the common first reaction to this film. Trent Reznor made
this with Peter Christopherson for the _Broken_ EP. The film shows a
kidnapped man being forced to watch nine inch nails videos while being
graphically tortured and killed by a masked madman.
Why was it never officially released? According to Trent, he didn't want
the press on his ass trying to get him to explain it. Plain and simple.
And NO, it is not real. It was filmed to look like a snuff film, which
apparently worked very well considering how many people have asked if
it was real or not. Score one for Trent/Peter.
H:3 "How much of "Happiness in Slavery" is real?"
The late Bob Flanagan was a rather famous S&M performance artist. He had
done stuff much worse than that shown on "HiS". In fact, pretty much the
only thing that was fake on the video was when he was actually killed.
Note: Bob Flanagan recently succumbed to Cystic Fibrosis, the disease from
which he suffered since childhood. He was a great man who contributed a lot
to Cystic Fibrosis research. Read about him in the book
'RESEARCH:Bob Flanagan'
Yes: That penis/nipple pulling/testicle clamping is all real.
H:4 "What was the original video for "March of the Pigs" like?"
According to a cameraman who works on NIN videos:
" ... I'm not talking about the video where it's just one shot, one take,
live recording in the 'white' room video, I worked on the one by Peter
Christopherson .... You'll have to excuse me because it was a real real
long time ago since I worked on it ... We shot it in two days around the
end of January 1994. The thing was, I don't think we shot everything we
were supposed to ... you see, there was supposed to be a third day of
production ... never happened! What we did shoot was stuff with the
entire band (not just Trent) in various 'dark' situations. Essentially
trashing instruments and other items along the way. We did a lot of
'dutch' angles, a lot of fast-paced stuff ... all in all, to me, it
seemed like an angry, aggressive, Evil Dead II meets Hellraiser mini-
movie ... a lot of hanging chains and always a watered-down set ...
but, I don't know if it was ever cut together, or if it is in somebody's
closet somewhere..."
H:5 "Where was the video for "Hurt" recorded?"
The video for "Hurt" was recorded before the show in Omaha, Nebraska on
February 13, 1995 and Dallas, Texas on February 11, 1995. Some concert-goers
were let in a half hour or so sooner to be the audience. Apparently the
reason for this is to keep the audience noise to a minimal level, especially
considering that in concert "Happiness in Slavery" and "Eraser" are before
"Hurt", and this makes for one wild/loud crowd. Why is he wet in the video?
He probably doused himself with water.
H:6 "Why wasn't there ever a video for "Piggy"?"
According to Trent:
"We tried to make a video for Piggy, but all the directors I talked to
...their ideas just *sucked*"
H:7 "Wasn't there a video for "Sin"?"
Trent's been quoted saying that they did make one, but that TVT messed
it up so bad with censoring that he took the tapes home, and never bothered
with the video again. Another rumor going around is it was released to some
clubs for awhile.
According to SeÛor Homepage himself (Jason Patterson):
"... i asked him about this-- he said they can't find the sin video...
they've looked for it but have lost it."
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I:1 "What is an import (bootleg)?"
On average, an import (bootleg) is an album pressed (CD/LP) in a foreign
country (Italy, Germany and England are common imports) to get around the
copyright laws. I don't know exactly why they can get away with it, but
imports often have copyrighted material (be it a live show, rare recorded
songs, and sometimes full length recorded albums). Bootlegs range in quality
from soundboard (when the soundman lets the bootlegger record directly off
the soundboard to make a near perfect sounding recording) to low quality
crowd recordings (some guy in the audience with a cassette recorder). Some
bootlegs are excellent and make great additions to your nin collection.
Some are total rip-offs, which brings us to the next topic...
I:2 "What imports are worth buying?"
There are 2 main imports that are well worth buying if you are big into NIN:
_Purest Feeling_ and _Demos and Remixes_. Another would be _Children of the
Night_, if you like live recordings.
_Purest Feeling_ is a full length album of demos for _Pretty Hate Machine_
recorded by Trent. It is unknown how these demos got out, but they make a
great addition to any collection. PF also contains 2 unreleased tracks:
"Maybe Just Once" and "Purest Feeling". Some people hate these songs, some
love them. You decide. Another thing about PF is it has the original lyrics
to "Ringfinger". (see section B:1 for more info)
_Demos and Remixes_ is another compilation of rare/unreleased tracks.
These include the original "Supernaut" (Trent's unaltered vox) and
"Suck" live (which cover the infamous Halo 00 (see section G:1)), and
"Twist", the original "Ringfinger". Also on this disc is the Go-Go Mix
of "Head Like a Hole" (referred to as the Opal Mix on the UK HLaH single),
and -- you guessed it -- demos and remixes of PHM songs.
A good quality import.
_Children of the Night_ is a soundboard-quality recording that is from the
Bowie/NIN tour. I'm not exactly sure of which date it is from, but the
sound quality is phenomenal. Definitely one to look for.
Two other decent imports that come to mind are Rusty Nails 1 and 2 (Non-Stop
mega mixes of NIN songs, worth the price of a used import maybe).
As far as the live stuff is concerned, there are so many out there that
there is no room to list it all here. Definitely check out the Import
page (See section I:4) before you buy any live recordings so you don't get
screwed into buying a shitty sounding CD.
I:3 "Which imports should I stay away from?"
The main imports to avoid are crappy sounding live shows. Always check
the import page (See section I:4) before buying any live recordings. Other
imports to steer clear of are Purest Feeling ][, Halo 00, and Slaves (to
name the first 3 to come to mind).
I:4 "Where can I go for more information about bootlegs?"
The place to go for bootleg reviews, track listings, dates, and even
order numbers is http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~cek/nin-imports.html.
This page replaces the older bootleg list that Jerry maintained called
"Seething Animosity". It contains everything that the old page had and
more, and it pretty much remains "the best source of NIN imports on the
net."
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J:1 "What is the 'ninternet'?"
The ninternet is what us ninnies [read: fans of nine inch nails] call our
section of the internet. Many people have contributed many fine FTP and
WWW sites to the ninternet, and we are not saying those listed are any
better than others, but due to space limitations, we will only be
listing the larger sites for now. In the future we may be able to list all
the known WWW/FTP/IRC sites.
--Hypertext version of FAQ--
http://www.madison-web.com/ninfaq
--French Version of FAQ--
http://www.mygale.org/03/ninjaw/ninfaq_f.txt
--UnOfficial NIN Homepage--
http://nothing.nin.net
--Complete NIN Discography--
http://democracy.queensu.ca/~fletcher/Nin/
--NIN tour date listing--
http://democracy.queensu.ca/~fletcher/Nin/Tours/
--Links to other NIN pages on the web--
http://www.selfdestruction.net/ringfinger/
--NIN and a.m.nin info--
http://www.amnin.com *** being remodeled, but still has links ***
--Bootleg review page--
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~cek/nin-imports.html
--NIN sheet music & tablature--
http://nothing.nin.net/guitar.html
--NIN web ring--
http://www.dragonfire.net/~Doug_n_Ken/ninring
--Trent Reznor fetish newsgroup--
alt.sex.fetish.trent-reznor
--Hope and Vaseline--
http://hnv.nin.net
--NIN Usenet Groups--
alt.music.nin
alt.music.nin.d
alt.music.nin.creative
--NIN IRC channels--
#amnin on EFnet (try server irc.ionet.net to start)
#nin on EFnet
#nin on Undernet (try server chicago.il.us.undernet.org)
And someday soon (we hope), the official nothing records site will go up.
To see a big "nothing" logo, and a cool spinning "n", go to:
http://www.nothingrecords.com
J:2 "Are the members of the band online?"
Well, I don't know exactly how involved Trent is, but Chris Vrenna reads
a.m.nin and the AOL folder quite often. And with the official site coming,
there may be a lot more interactivity amongst the band and it's fans that
are online.
J:3 "Is 'Reznor's Edge' really Trent's homepage?"
No, it is not. And even though magazines like Kerrang! and Circus have
reported otherwise, don't believe them. It's just a parody page, so if you
see it, you can do one of two things: have a good laugh or get pissed that
it is what it is. It's your call.
J:4 "Where can I find out more information about alt.music.nin?"
To keep up on what's going down on one of the craziest newsgroups on Usenet,
check out the a.m.nin faq, maintained by Patrick Miller. It describes the
rules that its subscribers (try to) adhere to, gives listings of what certain
tags on posts mean, and deals with many other aspects of the group. Check it
out at:
ftp://205.177.226.131/pub/faqs/amnfaq13.txt
(until I can find where the html version is)
J:5 "What is Nincon?"
Nincon is the annual gathering of members of the alt.music.nin and irc
channel #amnin community. It is a great opportunity for those who normally
only communicate with each other by the computer to actually meet one
another. Lots of fun activities are planned out each year, including
clubbing, shopping, and a big dinner/dance party at the end of the weekend.
If you are interested in attending this event, head yourself over to:
http://www.nincon.com
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Z:1 "Who wrote the FAQ?"
The NINFAQ was written by David Parmenter, based on the previous efforts
of Christopher Sobczak, the last maintainer. Sections have been written
and contributed to the FAQ by members of the Usenet newsgroup
alt.music.nin.
Full Name : David Allen Parmenter
E-mail : daveparm@student.umass.edu
URL : http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~daveparm
Z:2 "What's all this 'official source of unofficial information' stuff?"
A while back, Sean and Chris came to the conclusion that it would be much
better to stay independent so that the maintainers of the faq wouldn't have
to answer to anyone. So anyway, nothing records, formula public relations and
the band members do contribute information to the faq, but it is not an
official product of nine inch nails. It is, as Sean put it, 'the official
source of un-official information about nine inch nails' and that is just
how it will stay. The authors are in no way affiliated with Nothing records
other than we are always bugging them for information. What will the future
hold? Who knows...
Z:3 "Where can I get the newest version of the FAQ?"
Here is a distribution list.
Usenet:
alt.music.nin : Posted about once a week (or when I remember to) under the
heading:
"*** NINFAQ v#.# ***" or something to that effect.
The FAQ is posted to the following bases once a month:
alt.answers / rec.answers / news.answers / rec.music.industrial
WWW:
http://www.madison-web.com/ninfaq
*** Mad props to Jason Haas for server space ***
FTP:
ftp://205.177.226.131/pub/faqs/
*** Thanks go out to Jim Stark for setting this up ***
Z:4 "What's new with this FAQ?"
A new head author. Yup, Chris decided that he no longer wanted to work on it
anymore, so I took the reigns. I have maintained a lot of the same elements
from previous versions in order to be consistent, while changing a few things
around. One of the biggest differences is the decision to drop the a.m.nin
and nincon faqs, since their owners already do a good job at maintaining
those documents on their own. I have included the URLs to these documents
should you need to view them. And I didn't add the little "what's new" flags
to the new sections, since this is the first version I am doing on my own,
and there are a lot of new little things. The only way to really find what's
new is to scan through the whole thing. In the next update, I'll start using
the flags again.
Z:5 "The NINFAQ in other languages."
There is now a French translation of the ninfaq (version 6.604). It is
located at http://www.mygale.org/03/ninjaw/ninfaq_f.txt.
Z:6 "Author's section"
Just want to say thanks to all of the people that keep sending ideas and
comments on the faq, since that is the best way for myself to obtain
information in most cases. Sifting through thousands of articles on the
newsgroup can take a *long* time, and when someone sends me a short email
telling me what's up, it saves me from having to look forever.
Also, I do apologize for not posting this document as frequently, and for
not being able to get the whole document to the newsgroup. I hope that by at
least posting the URL, you are all able to view it without any inconvenience.
Oh, and by the way, if anyone still wants a #amnin t-shirt, I still have
about 20 left. They are mostly XLs, but I have a few Ls and XXLs left, too.
Check em' out on the web at http://www.amnin.com/parm, or e-mail me for more
info at daveparm@student.umass.edu
Z:7 "Who helped out?"
Everyone on alt.music.nin and #amnin on irc that I know can be thanked
(well, except the trolls and spammers)for their contributions to this faq. I
know some of you will go without credit in this document if you just posted
something that I happened to pick up while I was reading the group, but do
understand that you are greatly appreciated.
The following list is an alphabetical listing of those who have contributed
above and beyond to this faq, as well as some thank-yous to bands and ultra-
cool people that have influenced myself and previous authors. I have decided
to just list names from now on, since the number of people to keep track of
is getting pretty big. If you wanna see yer name here, send me some info
that isn't in the FAQ already!
I N C O M P L E T E
C R E D I T S
The following list is in alphabetical order
Adam Addelman, Lily Anderson, Michael Ardill, Sean Beavan, Adam Bender,
Brian Berkovitz, Robert Berry, Jackie Berry, Melissa A. Boysen, Christine
Bomke, Jeremy C. Bunag, Sean R. Carmack, Laurent Caron, Donna L. Cross, Maura
Daffern, Jack Dangers, Nathan Dewitt, Ennui, Andy Fitzgerald, Alex Fletcher,
Eric Freitag, Formula PR, Sean Galbraith, Gnat, Gina Grano, Jason Haas,
Natira Hammerstrom, Amy Hanauer, Mike Katzberg, Keaven Keating, Jeremy
Kennedy, Scott Kenney, C-ko Linde, Kenneth Little, Lisa Livingston, LOgre2'3,
Madeleine, Jody Match, William McLachlan, Taylor McLaren, Mippy, Kyle Moyer,
Robin C. Moore, Steph Nahas, Ninjaw P.B, Ed Paquette, Jason Patterson, Hope
Raudive, Alex Reed, Trent Reznor, Buck Satan, Gabe Shaw, Ben Simko, SiGHeR,
Matt Snoddy, Christopher Sobczak, Jim Stark, Kathleen Tibbetts, Damin J.
Toell, Tool, The Ur-Vile, Raphael Veit, Chris Vrenna, Chris Wiberg, and
Kristian Zoerhoff
EVERYONE ELSE ON A.M.NIN & #AMNIN WHO HELPED! YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!
Z:8 "Legal stuff"
DISTRIBUTION INFORMATION: PLEASE READ
The Nine Inch Nails Frequently Asked Questions file is Copyright 1997
by David Allen Parmenter, (C) 1997 David Parmenter. This FAQ, or parts
thereof, may not be reproduced in any form without permission.
It is very easy to get the author's permission to use this FAQ. All
you have to do is e-mail me at the above address (section Z:1). That's all
there is to it. The only reason I require that you get in contact with me
is for my personal records as to who has used this FAQ.
Please pay attention to this rule. It doesn't require much effort, and
it is the law (international copyright laws) that you get the author's
permission BEFORE using any copywritten (this faq) material.
The FAQ loosely follows a standard FAQ format. Any similarities to
any other Frequently Asked Questions file is purely coincidental. There
are other nine inch nails FAQs in circulation and they are in NO WAY
related to this FAQ.
All bands listed in this FAQ are trademarked/copyrighted/owned by their
specific labels/artist. All videos/films are owned/copyrighted by their
specific film companies.
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Rest In Peace MAISE & ROCKY and all the other irreplaceable pets of ninnies
Bambi the Wonder Rabbit, Rocky, Sparky, Mouse, Clover, Sharpe, Hexal, Rex,
Rocky, Boo Boo, Penny, T.C., Tweety, Snowy, Maggie, Samson (Son of Sam),
Bandit, Fred, Joshie, Sundown, Taffy, Trent the TerrorGothBat, Sofia, Mojo,
Sherlock, Tracey, and Toby.
RIP Bob Flanagan & Jeff Ward
COPYRIGHT 1997, David Allen Parmenter
(C) 1997, David Parmenter
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